it has been announced that
Evangelion is to be re-made into four anime movies
the first two re-telling the 26 episodes of the series and
the other two being brand new and hopfully tying up all the loose ends
for people who were unable to grasp both the final episode and the end of evangelion (not me):
full story at ign:
http://uk.filmforce.ign.com/articles/732/732249p1.html
http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/9282.html
more info at the link.
What was the purpose of the other 2 films then?
Seems kinda pointless making it into a film - still I'll watch it. I'll also watch the other 2 as well.
Even though I'm not a huge fan.
QuoteOf the four upcoming films, two will essentially retell the original story, combining footage from the series with new backgrounds and soundtracks.
Isn't that
exactly what they did with 'Evangelion: Death & Rebirth'.
Part of me feels that it will be interesting to see what the new stories they've got to tell are, but I can't help thinking - why mess with perfection?
A third and fourth movie will finally let the Eva mythos resolve the whole Instrumentality arc rather than dropping off at the last minute like both of the old endings did. There are downsides to that, of course, but from watching the whole series and what parts of D&R/EoE I've seen, they validate George Lucas' claim about movies never being finished so much as abandoned. GAINAX did well IMO within what constraints were put on them by both fans and sponsors, granted, but even the supposed End of Evangelion leaves many threads hanging from the tatters of those it tried to flamethrower JSSDF-style. The fourth movie should be especially interesting if it deals with any aftermath of Third Impact and how life will go on if indeed it does post-Instrumentality.
never really understood evangelion and now four more movies are being made oh dear
Yeh I heard all this mess about how good Evangelion was, then I saw it. I never thought I could be that badly confused in my life. Not to mention, whiney teenagers get a bit old after awhile.
Quote from: "HA1L ILPALLAZZO"never really understood evangelion and now four more movies are being made oh dear
yeah...so now we can be confused four times over :roll:
...I wasn't confused by it at all... What was so confusing?
I wasn't unduly confused either :wink: ; but I can easily see where people might be because of Evangelion's highly stylized (and later emergency-rationed) production values. The Instrumentality scenes during the original Eps 25-26 are the most troublesome, since the impression a fan walks away with from these depends entirely on how they interpret several highly ambiguous statements from characters whose very (in episode) existence, much less credibility, is open to question.
Examples fromm Ep.26: What world is Shinji saying he can exist in, if any? Does the proverbial "rainy day," which the ghost of Ritsuko says Shinji can still have fun on near the end, refer to Third Impact or simply life's inevitable if (hopefully :shock: ) less-extreme gloomy times? Is the parallel world Shinji witnessed a true alternate universe, or just his own wishful delusion? (I'm an Angelic Days manga fan so I tend towards the former...) Whether or not the Instrumentality Project can be seen as successful in the series' ending, in terms of achieving the new existence SEELE/NERV/&c planned for Humanity (itself a thorny topic...), depends on the answers a fan puts to these questions. EoE is more explicit in having the Instrumentality fail; abjectly, albeit with the stated-yet-unresolved possibility of life returning to the devastated Earth at some future point.
Another thing I think that tends to confuse people is just the ending period. The majority of mecha anime, and thereby the attitude with which mecha fans go into watching a mecha anime, are much more straight forward in action. Barring Gundam, most mecha shows (though I'm not a mecha fan, so correct me if I'm wrong) don't delve too deeply into extreme drama. And even Gundam's dramas tend towards the melodramas, not a real and explicit look into humanity, the driving force behind it, a person's existential crisis, etc. When you watch through basically all of Evangelion, while it may imply that the ending will be a look into the mind, it's a subtle implication. People get confused when suddenly there is no definitive, action-based ending and it all seems to be either a delusion or an alternate reality or... something, and they're not sure what. It really is the last couple of episodes that throw people since it's not what they're expecting at all.
You're quite right. Exaggerating maybe on the degree of melodrama since Gundam does better than most as you point out. But clearly plot is given preference over character in the average mecha show; the exact opposite of Evangelion's style, especially in the later episodes.
When I was browsing Tiffany Grant's site months ago and listening to NPR's review of Eva, their handling of the arc did the best they could without going well into spoiler territory, but their view of the end tended towards the "delusional Shinji" theory that a more "normal" mecha show would've used for its ending context. I'll grant that it might (barely) be workable if one takes the JSSDF's orders during the movies into account and assumes Shinji is just accepting his inevitable execution when all is said and done; but IMO that requires trivializing or disregarding the testimony of several major characters during the ending eps. Not to mention the theory itself sets up the thus-intrigued viewer for an arguably worse disconnect once the more mystical/philosophical/WTF elements really begin showing up after Zeruel's trouncing, since it deliberately makes the series sound more "typical" than it is. (Plus this theory actually achieves the rare feat of making EoE sound optimistic by comparison... :shock:)
On the topic of EoE; is Revival going to be released here in the US like the platinums were? I'm seriously divided over whether to get the long-available D&R/EoE DVD set now and run the risk of duds (I've heard Manga had many defects with these...), or wait until the definitive cut arrives with (hopefully) better quality control.
Quote from: "Phnx28"I'll grant that it might (barely) be workable if one takes the JSSDF's orders during the movies into account and assumes Shinji is just accepting his inevitable execution when all is said and done; but IMO that requires trivializing or disregarding the testimony of several major characters during the ending eps.
I completely agree with you. It's not a good idea to disregard the other characters - you completely lose a very important aspect of the conclusion.
As for Revival, I'm not sure about it, but if I hear something, I'll for sure let you know/
Cool i hope it going to be good
-Shouta, The Haibane
What a great song playing... i wonder what it's called...
I'm looking forward to this remake...
This looks AWESOME. However... I hope the soundtrack is better than that first trailer. The series ending Fly Me to the Moon was bad enough...
QuoteWhat a great song playing... i wonder what it's called...
My guess is "Simple World"
As far as the remake series is concerned, I'm still not thrilled about it. The entire latter part of the series degenerated into psycho babble and Shinji's not stop angst-fest, and after waiting so long for Death/Rebirth and End of Evangelion I was even more disappointed in it. The remake just seems to have updated art, but if all the melodrama and angst remain as thick as it was in the original, I'll have to pass.
The "psycho babble" is what I love about the show. It was really interesting and indulgent. I wouldn't have liked the series nearly as much if it'd been a one-dimensional destroy-the-new-angel every episode. You can dislike Shinji's character but that was part of the point to having him (and Asuka's annoying attitude). They portray specific personalities.
QuoteI wouldn't have liked the series nearly as much if it'd been a one-dimensional destroy-the-new-angel every episode
Well neither would I, and having deep subject matter is great, I just think it came off as too pretentious and a bit too self-indulgent. That appeals to some people, I'm just not one of them, and I know the creator of Evangelion, his name escapes me right now, based the character of Shinji off of his own insecurities but it's hard for me to get into a story when I want to club at least half the cast to death with a tire iron. Asuka never bothered me as much as she did some others, and I never got the Rei obsession. The show had enough good points to keep me watching to the end, but my problem is when I arrived at that end and reviewed the totality of the series and what it led up to, I just deflated a bit and went "Oh, right."
Bah, pretentious... I hate that term to describe art/entertainment. I call it ambition.
Quote from: Poey on August 21, 2007, 08:23:30 PM
Bah, pretentious... I hate that term to describe art/entertainment. I call it ambition.
But it could be pretentious ambition! Or ambitious pretention! Wait, pretention isn't a word.
Preambitious?
love the trailers.
cant wait
Quote from: ElricJC on August 21, 2007, 07:34:34 PM
based the character of Shinji off of his own insecurities
... well more he was going thro a suicidal phase prior to working on Evangelion.
The depth of the series has always been the staying power for me.The difference from the start and the end, to me its almost a parody of an anime genre in the Beginning.
It really is a parody of anime at the beginning. It's a take on a Gundam-type thing. I just watched Death and Rebirth and The End of Eva last night again. Swept off my feet with crap I barely understand...
The commentary is very thought provoking (and funny sometimes).
EDITED: I forgot the "t" in "it". I am not a parody of anime.
thats it gundam, I couldent think what it was reminding me of.
nice one :ehail:
(the scene that Shinji strolls into Rei's room and she just got out of the shower, paraphrasing)
"Look at her possessions, it's quite interesting... she owns nothing but dozens of bloody bandages, Gendo's broken glasses, and about a hundred pairs of underwear."
I'm still excited about this thing.
...Any news on this thing?
EDIT I just went all around the internet looking it up.
The first movie was in theaters in Japan last summer I guess. It's set for release in Japan in April/May 2008, and there hasn't been any licensing or anything for international release.
The second movie is set for release this year sometime.
Necro post of DOOOM!! ^^
Last Saturday (in addition to watching Zombieland on the same day.... and I NEVER go out to watch two movies in one day) I saw part one at the movie theater..
Evangelion 1.0: You Are (Not) Alone
It's basically the first six episodes of the series.
I've always felt intimidated to watch the series all the way through. Seems that many say the ending was "effed up" and left most thinking WTF they just saw. YET at the same time, Neon Genesis Evangelion has somehow been called one of the greatest animes of all time. O_o When I first heard this rebuild of Evangelion was hitting movie theaters this year I felt more than compelled to check it out.
What this "rebuild" means:
-First and formost, the story has been reworked just enough to allow both fans and non-fans to get a better grasp on what's going on.
-The animation has been cleaned up crystal clear from its original release - no color or dirt flaws. Additionally, some very slick CG animation has been implimented within the old animation making this production feel very up-to-date to current standards.
-Additional brand new animation and at least one new character (that I know of atm) will be brought into the mix.
So... What did I think? To tell the truth, I'm not entirely sure yet storywise - there's so much more I wanted to know. When the end credits started to roll I wanted more. Strangely enough I think I'll be going along for the ride. The curiosity factor is strong in this one.
But... maaaaan.... If I EVER met a Shinji Ikari in real life, I'd... have to just run him over with my car and back up over him again and again. ugh...! :e_wink:
I know, Shinji vies for "Whiniest Bitch in Anime," and he really needs to just have the emo hit the fuck out of him. One reason I couldn't stand the series, all the characters were so unlikeable I didn't really give a shit if they died.
Still doubt I will go out of my way to see this.
In the original series, Shinji was a depressed child who was easy to sympathize with. In the new movie, he's a whiny bitch with no depth whatsoever.
Just my opinion.
Nov 10th can't come soon enough damnit.
So when is 2.0 likely to be released then.
It hasn't even been shown in the US yet, has it?
^Not yet.
And it's difficult to find legit release info about it. O_o
Part two is called Evangelion 2.0: You Can (Not) Advance
Shame really, it took long enough of them to release the first part, it's kind of a shame the live action movie never happened
Eva 1.01 came in the mail today, and I watched it again. UGH!!! FREAKIN BEAUTIFUL!!!!
Not related to the movies but has anyone seen Evangelion@School?
The episodes are mostly just a few minutes long and are CG animated.
PetiteEva1's Channel on YouTube has the best quality. (http://www.youtube.com/user/PetiteEva1)
24 episodes. Not all episodes are good but some are amusing.
Very amusing, It looks we in the uk get movie 1.01 in april, most definetly buying
Quote from: exckilla on February 06, 2010, 03:02:58 PM
Very amusing, It looks we in the uk get movie 1.01 in april, most definetly buying
I'm almost considering getting it AGAIN on blu-ray. I don't even have a bluray player. Hmm
Evangelion 2.22: You Can (Not) Advance is out on DVD and Bluray!
Where? What? No it isn't...? I haven't heard about this? Huh? EXPLAIN!!!
in Japan this week, yeah, but its raw. are you a fan enough to watch it raw?
Yep, recently released in Japan.
We'll need to wait a bit longer, Poey. Funimation has no mention of it on their site yet.
I was kinda looking forward to seeing part two on the big screen just like part one. But I don't see any indication of this happening.
I'm a fan enough to wait until it's released so I can purchase it legally and support the cause.
(ooo)
Yeah I hope I might see it at AX or something this year... maybe... I don't know if it'll be playing but here's hoping.
If I see it on import somewhere I may buy but, I will most likely wait even if it takes a while.
I bought a copy of the first movie months before the official release at a dvd store in sydney's chinatown. I don't know if it was a legit copy, but it had proper subtitles and seemed decent. I bought other things there that didn't have proper subs at all and they were definantly illegal copies. I didn't realise that at the time.
If I see the 2nd movie there, i will buy it. Just because i have to see what happens. Not because Kaworu's there. Not at all.
Now, as some of you may know, I didn't like Rebuild 1.0.
With that said, 2.0 was fucking amazing! I absolutely loved it! Probably my second favorite Evangelion so far (after End of Eva).
Quote from: Randamo on June 03, 2010, 01:16:12 AM
If I see the 2nd movie there, i will buy it. Just because i have to see what happens. Not because Kaworu's there. Not at all.
That's good, since he only has about 25 seconds of screen time max.
Quote from: Foggle on June 07, 2010, 09:17:58 PM
Quote from: Randamo on June 03, 2010, 01:16:12 AM
If I see the 2nd movie there, i will buy it. Just because i have to see what happens. Not because Kaworu's there. Not at all.
That's good, since he only has about 25 seconds of screen time max.
Oh, you big joker. *Sniff*
J-List has the blue ray listed. Who's fan enough to buy the Japanese release? I saw a Hong Kong release of the movie, with english subs. I might buy that - because im desperate to see it. Don't worry, I'll buy the real release too.
I heard from a little bird that this movie has a different take on the elevator scene and Shinji's player now plays song 27, although in the show he only listens to songs 25 and 26. Hmmmm!
Quote from: Randamo on June 25, 2010, 06:39:55 PMI heard from a little bird that this movie has a different take on the elevator scene and Shinji's player now plays song 27, although in the show he only listens to songs 25 and 26. Hmmmm!
As I recall, wasn't that like a Sony Walkman-esque type player he had originally? Is he still playing cassette tapes in this rebuild?
Any ideas about what the third movies going to cover
Quote from: Lord Il on June 27, 2010, 06:12:01 AM
Quote from: Randamo on June 25, 2010, 06:39:55 PMI heard from a little bird that this movie has a different take on the elevator scene and Shinji's player now plays song 27, although in the show he only listens to songs 25 and 26. Hmmmm!
As I recall, wasn't that like a Sony Walkman-esque type player he had originally? Is he still playing cassette tapes in this rebuild?
Behold! He plays a SDAT tape player. I believe the series is still set in the 90s... Asuka is seen playing a pretty old portable console that I don't belive I've ever seen.
(http://karmaburn.com/files/screenshots/eva/rebuild/sdat0201.jpg)
Bought a Hong Kong version. Hate me if you will, but you see - i get to see the movie now.
Spoilers ahead, if you can call them such: All i'll say is so colorful! Actual english voice actors for english roles. Asuka acts so violent and snarls at her game console - NO! she's just like me now. Mari looks like fun, I actualy like her.
And THIS:
(http://forums.mangafox.com/picture.php?albumid=26408&pictureid=175402)
Is so worth the money, if the movie itself wasn't. Which it is...
I saw a jap version of 2.0 with no subs so please can someone tell me who is the girly eva no 5, that ending took me by surprise though.
Finished the movie! The first half is reminiscent of the Asuka introduction episodes, but the other half feels more like the end of evangelion, with it's reckless abandon for the character's lives - i say no moar.
The 5th child is Mari from North America(i think). Since each country can only have 3 evas, she follows a different chain o' command. She has a different viewpoint of piloting eva, that it's fun, and she gets lots of enjoyment out of the whole procedure.
This movie will introduce a couple new ideas, so expect the unexpected! Also, the characters will have more open and differing personalities particularly Rei, Asuka, Shinji, Misato and Ikari.
Thank you for that bit of info, can't wait until movie 3.0 is released though the title sounds like something off a highlander movie the quicking.
Evangelion: 2.0: You Can (Not) Advance finally gets a theater release this week. (http://www.funimation.com/evangelion/)
Check your local theaters for availability and times (they are limited!)
"1/19/11 1 day TX Austin Alamo Lake Creek"
:lordilvryannoyed:
Wish I had seen this two days ago... :elcry:
On a whim, I checked for a theater release date for 2.0. I couldn't believe it was literally hours away. O_O
Unfortunately I can't round up anyone else to go and the weather has been a bit iffy lately. I'll have to sit this one out. T_T
OH SHI--- it's playing this weekend in SF, premier is TONIGHT. Fuckballs. AGH. I must see it.
I got tickets for tomorrow (Sunday) night. Can't wait! We watched Eva 1.01 this afternoon to get ready.
I really wish we had a Saturday or Sunday showing here instead.
Thursday evening was a strange time for it.
I'm lucky, San Francisco is playing all this weekend at several showings per day.
You're just rubbing it in, aren't you? :e_wink:
That is lucky though.
Curses....
Ok so... (finally getting around to this forum)...
HOLY CRAP. 0_0
Uhhhhh..... original series?
My mind's been fucked. I need to get it when comes out on DVD. I wonder where they're going with the 3rd and 4th movies. I'm so perplex. This is going to be interesting.
I've heard the 2.0 installment was quite a turnaround from the original.
But is it better?
that's for you to decide.
They really made up a whole bunch of new stuff that is completely different from the series. Personally, I DON'T like it, but I'll wait until the next movie to finalise that opinion - it ends on a sorta cliff-hanger.
I like the original series and End of Eva a lot more than the Rebuild movies so far, tbh.
I adored the first movie. It was also pretty much the same as the series, so there isn't much explanation behind it.
The second one screwed with my mind. I don't know if I like more or less, or if I should even be comparing it to the series. I really have to see where the movies take it before I can judge. It's just... different. There were a few complaints I had with the second movie, but those were surface-level artistic complaints, not anything to do with the story or characters really.
artistic? please explain.
btw, what did you think of mari?
I thought some of the music, on at least 2 different occasions, was inappropriate. 1 was Asuka's entrance (the generic rock-metal guitar solo thing... in 3, I actually didn't like how it was in 3 which might be weird). The second was when Unit 01 went berserk with the dummy plug and Shinji went "oh no!" and ate Asuka. I liked what they were trying to do with the music, but ... eh, I thought it just came off misplaced.
i never noticed, but I'll look out for it next time.
Oh yeah, and the new girl... interesting. So far I'm not sure what purpose she really serves. I'm curious. She obviously must have to do with something more later. So I don't really know what I think right now.
Quote from: Poey on February 01, 2011, 09:37:54 AM
Oh yeah, and the new girl... interesting. So far I'm not sure what purpose she really serves. I'm curious. She obviously must have to do with something more later. So I don't really know what I think right now.
Yeah, Mari's presence in the movie seemed more like a cameo appearance than anything else. I wonder what's up with her.