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Title: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Sean Gaffney on April 11, 2010, 03:53:36 PM
http://books.simonandschuster.com/Excel-Saga-Vol-22/Rikdo-Koshi/Excel-Saga/9781421535708

Mark your calendars for October, kids!
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Foggle on April 11, 2010, 05:01:48 PM
Five and a half months!?!?!?!!

CAN'T. WAIT. THAT. LONG. :e_crying:
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Mad Hatteress on April 11, 2010, 05:11:46 PM
^ I'd rather wait then it be canceled! If this were a Tokyo Pop manga we'd be left hanging and never see the reveal of ES's great mysteries. Two mangas a year is kinda sad but it's better than nothing!
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: HA1L ILPALLAZZO on April 12, 2010, 09:38:43 AM
Quote from: Foggle on April 11, 2010, 05:01:48 PM
Five and a half months!?!?!?!!

CAN'T. WAIT. THAT. LONG. :e_crying:
don't see why you can't wait that long I mean it was a longer wait for volumes 15 and 16
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: MincyMatsu on April 12, 2010, 12:08:34 PM
Quote from: Foggle on April 11, 2010, 05:01:48 PM
Five and a half months!?!?!?!!

CAN'T. WAIT. THAT. LONG. :e_crying:

YOU can't wait..?

Weren't YOU the one who got Vol 21, like, before anyone else..? :lordilvryannoyed:

:excel_fall:
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Foggle on April 12, 2010, 04:41:51 PM
Quote from: Micki! on April 12, 2010, 12:08:34 PM
Quote from: Foggle on April 11, 2010, 05:01:48 PM
Five and a half months!?!?!?!!

CAN'T. WAIT. THAT. LONG. :e_crying:

YOU can't wait..?

Weren't YOU the one who got Vol 21, like, before anyone else..? :lordilvryannoyed:

:excel_fall:
Yep. That means the wait is longer for me. :eltongue:
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: HA1L ILPALLAZZO on April 12, 2010, 05:20:54 PM
Quote from: Foggle on April 12, 2010, 04:41:51 PM
Quote from: Micki! on April 12, 2010, 12:08:34 PM
Quote from: Foggle on April 11, 2010, 05:01:48 PM
Five and a half months!?!?!?!!

CAN'T. WAIT. THAT. LONG. :e_crying:

YOU can't wait..?

Weren't YOU the one who got Vol 21, like, before anyone else..? :lordilvryannoyed:

:excel_fall:
Yep. That means the wait is longer for me. :eltongue:
::waits till foggle climbs back up ::
:excel_fall:
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Foggle on April 12, 2010, 09:32:53 PM
Quote from: HA1L ILPALLAZZO on April 12, 2010, 05:20:54 PM
Quote from: Foggle on April 12, 2010, 04:41:51 PM
Quote from: Micki! on April 12, 2010, 12:08:34 PM
Quote from: Foggle on April 11, 2010, 05:01:48 PM
Five and a half months!?!?!?!!

CAN'T. WAIT. THAT. LONG. :e_crying:

YOU can't wait..?

Weren't YOU the one who got Vol 21, like, before anyone else..? :lordilvryannoyed:

:excel_fall:
Yep. That means the wait is longer for me. :eltongue:
::waits till foggle climbs back up ::
:excel_fall:
:pedronooo:
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Kharaxel on April 13, 2010, 12:23:14 PM
Man. They sure know how to keep a customer waiting.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: MincyMatsu on April 30, 2010, 08:33:25 AM
At least eh EVA fans got both the series, a REMAKE of the series, a movie based of it AND a manga... In a way they got more than us... :il_hahaha:

And i still haven't gotten vol 21 ...
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: HA1L ILPALLAZZO on April 30, 2010, 02:38:43 PM
dammit micki calm down ::slaps micki:: calm down ::slaps him again::

I'm surprised you still havent got volume 21 yet micki whats happened there?

::slaps micki::
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: MincyMatsu on April 30, 2010, 05:38:20 PM
I -UNF- had a Norwegian friend of -UNF- mine order it for me, but -UNF- the recently erupted volcano in Iceland created a large -UNF- ash cloud, that prevented airplanes (with mail and -UNF- such) Therefore i guess there have been quite a bunch of delays for the last week, but teh ash cloud has apparently evaporated by now, so i guess he'll -UNF- receive it soon, and eventually send it my -UNF- way by then...


...Unf Unf

Unf...

STOP HITTING ME!!!
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Lord Il on April 30, 2010, 06:08:55 PM
^HA1L is so violent, huh? :e_tongue: Holy..!



I still find myself a bit confuzzled by vol.22's color scheme on the cover. Most notable is El's hair color being blue. O_o
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: SWamP on May 01, 2010, 12:19:28 AM
Quote from: Lord Il on April 30, 2010, 06:08:55 PM

I still find myself a bit confuzzled by vol.22's color scheme on the cover. Most notable is El's hair color being blue. O_o[/color]

Possibly a obscure parody of something (Hyatt colors are weird, too)

And the desert background...
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: HA1L ILPALLAZZO on May 01, 2010, 05:52:00 AM
Quote from: Lord Il on April 30, 2010, 06:08:55 PM
^HA1L is so violent, huh? :e_tongue: Holy..!

I'm not violent I'm just making sure that micki doesn't panic over not having vol 21..........::slaps Lord Il:: and thats for suggesting I was violent XD

as for the cover I quite like it it's been a while since we saw Ha-Chan on the cover but the colors might be explained by the background (I do know it is hard to show dark colors on a dark red background)
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Sean Gaffney on June 05, 2010, 03:56:50 AM
Ah, bad news, kids.  Amazon has removed the preorder for ES22, and it now has a date of April 2011.  And Simon & Shuster has removed it from their site as well.

Viz had been shifting some titles back over the past several months, so this doesn't surprise me that much, but it's still a major bummer.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Kharaxel on June 06, 2010, 10:27:29 AM
wat
WAAAAATTTTTTRRRRGGHHHHHHH!

Viz! VIIIIZZZZZ!

Well, ffffuu-

Goddamn.

That kinda sucks... huh?
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Lord Il on June 06, 2010, 11:40:54 AM
That may have a lot to do with the recent layoffs Viz experienced...http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-05-11/pw/viz-media-lays-off-up-to-60-closes-ny-branch
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Foggle on June 07, 2010, 09:21:38 PM
Fuck.
QuoteWe have no plans at this time for drastic measures such as product cancellations or business line closures. Your favorite series are not going away.
:ehail: :g_hail: :elhail: :im_nabeshin: :lordilsmile:
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Uncreativity on June 07, 2010, 09:44:07 PM
Still, April...

On the bright side, maybe I'll stop torturing poor Carl and actually get some art submitted this time (DISCLAIMER: probably not).
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Lord Il on June 08, 2010, 08:17:41 PM
But I've already said too much!! :il_hahaha:
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Uncreativity on June 08, 2010, 08:46:26 PM
The mystery! The excitement! The intrigue!
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: ElricJC on June 09, 2010, 07:39:20 AM
A year wait, huh? Yeah, I'll be lucky to remember the series by then. It's like waiting for new volumes of Blade of the Immortal. But I guess it can't be helped, at least it's not being canned.

Still,  :lordilannoyed:
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Taste on June 20, 2010, 12:26:52 AM
a whole freaking year. I am dissapoint. lets just hope no snags come along that will delay it longer such as more lay offs during the wait....
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Lord Il on June 20, 2010, 10:36:00 AM
Quote from: Taste on June 20, 2010, 12:26:52 AM
a whole freaking year. I am dissapoint. lets just hope no snags come along that will delay it longer such as more lay offs during the wait....
As far as I've been able to tell, the layoffs are already done and shouldn't go further. We'll just have to hope for the best.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: SWamP on June 30, 2010, 01:47:30 PM
Quote from: Sean Gaffney on June 05, 2010, 03:56:50 AM
Ah, bad news, kids.  Amazon has removed the preorder for ES22, and it now has a date of April 2011.  And Simon & Shuster has removed it from their site as well.

Viz had been shifting some titles back over the past several months, so this doesn't surprise me that much, but it's still a major bummer.

Great... (http://foroexcelsaga.webcindario.com/images/smilies/Watanabe_enojado.gif)

Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: WolfeMcGowann on July 27, 2010, 05:21:21 AM
Just..... 219 days to go, eh....
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Foggle on July 27, 2010, 08:18:31 AM
Quote from: WolfeMcGowann on July 27, 2010, 05:21:21 AM
Just..... 219 days to go, eh....
They should've left Excel Saga alone and pushed back Naruto instead! :il_hahaha:

Of course, Viz's offices would probably be burned down by angry fans before the next volume even came out, if that happened...
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: PlanR on July 28, 2010, 01:27:52 AM
Ah man...
Do you know the South Park episode, in which Cartman in order to deal with his inpatience decides to freeze himself? Start to think it's not the worst option, science-damnit!
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: incarta on August 14, 2010, 10:10:10 AM
My gut instinct says trying to solve a companies money woes by releasing LESS stuff makes no sense! But I have a feeling it's not that simple.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Ichigo on August 17, 2010, 01:35:27 PM
I can't seem to find it on U.S. amazon but over on canadian amazon...
Volume 23 pre-order is up!  And it's not coming out until April 10, 2012!  :elcry:

http://www.amazon.ca/Excel-Saga-Vol-Rikdo-Koshi/dp/1421536412/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1282077077&sr=1-1

I can't stand the thought of waiting yet another year...
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Pointless on August 17, 2010, 08:00:57 PM
I sincerely hope that April 10, 2012 is before the World ends.
:menchi-1:
Alternatively, if there is any delay, I can just imagine all the enraged Excel Saga fans bringing out their hidden caches of Overtechnology to have their revenge! (And accidentally pressing the "Do Not Press" buttons.)

Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: incarta on August 18, 2010, 09:44:31 AM
Are there enough Excel Saga fans to make an impression though? -_-
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Foggle on August 18, 2010, 11:06:56 AM
One volume per year? I guess I shouldn't be shocked, but it still feels wrong and painful. :(
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Taste on August 18, 2010, 09:59:53 PM
viz.......FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Kharaxel on August 24, 2010, 08:09:58 AM
Are they MAD?!
I just... whattheshitisthisshit?
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Foggle on February 01, 2011, 07:21:07 AM
Only a little more than two months left now! :iwata:
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Lord Il on February 01, 2011, 01:37:49 PM
^Yes, after what seemed an eternity. *whew!!*
Just around the corner now.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Inkwolf on February 26, 2011, 10:51:49 AM
I just finally caught up through 21.  AAAARGH!  I keep hoping something is going to sort itself out, but Il Palazzo is still being a jerk, and I'm beginning to have suspicions he's a robot/hologram constructed and controlled by Miwa, and there's at the very least 4 more books to go before anything gets resolved, it seems.

At least I don't have too long to wait for the next fix...
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Foggle on March 03, 2011, 08:43:24 PM
KZZZT   FOGGLE-BOT COMMENCING PANIC MODE   KZZZT
[spoiler=VIZ WHAT IS GOING ON VIZ OH GOD OH GOD](http://i52.tinypic.com/eqcbwo.png)[/spoiler]
KZZZT   PANIC MODE OFF   KZZZT
It's probably just a website error, but still...
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Lord Il on March 04, 2011, 02:06:36 PM
^I noticed that as well when checking Viz's site for releases. That was about a month ago. O_o

Has to be an oversight. o_O
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Taste on March 04, 2011, 09:46:35 PM
It's not displaying anything else asides from Eva and Biomega...perhaps it's a error

Edit: Holy mother of ass, why didn't I bother to look at the front page? Well, It could be that Viz ended up dropping Excel saga altogether...that, or they pushed it even further off to a later date.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Carl Horn on March 07, 2011, 03:03:36 PM
Just in case you're worried as to whether Vol. 22 exists, here's a preview page ^_^

(http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/5866/esvol22p19.th.jpg) (http://img849.imageshack.us/i/esvol22p19.jpg/)
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Foggle on March 07, 2011, 10:11:02 PM
Have I ever told you that I love you, Mr. Horn? 'Cuz I do. You just completely vanquished my fears about the status of Excel Saga's English localization and in the process have once again provided us with one of your awesome preview pages. Make sure to let me know that I'm being stupidly reactive and paranoid next time I express doubt about Viz's dedication!

I have a quick question, if you're allowed to speak on this subject... Is the April 2012 release date for Volume 23 (as seen on Amazon.ca) confirmed, or just speculation with the aforementioned website jumping the gun? Could it possibly be coming sooner than that? Thanks so much!
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: incarta on March 15, 2011, 02:23:14 PM
*wonders in*

Feels like ages since I last looked in here. Got my copy of volume 22 pre-ordered ~
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Foggle on March 15, 2011, 11:20:04 PM
If you're not worried about spoilers,
CHECK OUT THIS "GREAT" REVIEW! (http://www.examiner.com/manga-in-national/review-excel-saga-volume-22-review)

QuoteIt's been a long while since I've read Excel Saga. Twelve volumes to be exact.
QuoteHonestly, aside from the Excel double plot, I couldn't figure out what was happening.

OH, GEE, REALLY? He skipped 12 volumes and expected to understand what was going on? Wowlol
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: SWamP on March 16, 2011, 12:21:37 PM
QuoteIt's been a long while since I've read Excel Saga. Twelve volumes to be exact.

Ok. 10 was your last volume, and skipped directly to 22...

QuoteIf I didn't know any better, I'd say the series hasn't seen much development since last I read.

I stopped to read here.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Lord Il on March 16, 2011, 01:46:40 PM
Quote from: Foggle on March 15, 2011, 11:20:04 PM
If you're not worried about spoilers,
CHECK OUT THIS "GREAT" REVIEW! (http://www.examiner.com/manga-in-national/review-excel-saga-volume-22-review)

QuoteIt's been a long while since I've read Excel Saga. Twelve volumes to be exact.
QuoteHonestly, aside from the Excel double plot, I couldn't figure out what was happening.

OH, GEE, REALLY? He skipped 12 volumes and expected to understand what was going on? Wowlol
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..12 volumes.... Wut??!? :e_confused:
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Foggle on March 16, 2011, 06:42:20 PM
Hey guys! I wrote my own review! Please tell me what you think. :)

----------

It's been some time since I last read any Excel Saga. I believe at one point I quickly glanced at the back of the box of the second disc of the anime when it was first released by ADV, so that would have been in 2002.

Anyway, The Excel Saga is the latest arc in the Dragon Ball series. However, unlike the original series, it is written and drawn by Shinichi Koshi instead of Ken Akamatsu. This is evident right away because the female characters actually look like women.

Anyway, The Excel Saga picks up right where The Cell Saga left off. It is about an Italian man living in Fukushima who plans to travel across the ocean to New York and conquer the world from there (hence why his organization is called Across; clever, right?).

Anyway, this is my review of Volume 22. To start off, I have several beefs with this series. First of all, Viz advertises this as an action manga (as to be expected from a DBZ spin-off), but it's actually more focused on dialogue. This would be okay if it wasn't so unrealistic. This is my second point. For one thing, how does the blue-haired girl make her hair go all spirally like that? Also, why is her hair purple in all the fan-art I've seen when it is distinctly blue on the cover? Also, I have seen a picture of her with two penises. Is this canon?

The other characters make equally as little sense. Why are there two of the blonde chick? One of them is funny and the other one isn't. I like the funny one more because she is funny and also cuter. Also, why does Hi-Hat keep vomiting blood? That happened to me one time when I ate a raw steak. Maybe she shouldn't eat raw steaks. There is also a man named Cowboybebop who has a big mustache and likes to bribe government officials. Is he Democrat or Republican? I think Republicans probably have bigger mustaches most of the time but Democrats are more likely to give out bribes. Maybe he is Green Party. Also, why does the scientist stare at all the little girls in the park? Maybe his daughter is missing and he is looking for her. One time my daughter wandered off in H-E-B and it took me 5 minutes to find her. She was in the frozen food aisle holding a Totino's pizza. I put it back and bought Red Baron instead. It was good and did not make me vomit blood.

My biggest problem with this series is that it's not very accessible to new readers. They could do a better job explaining what happened last time instead of expecting me to spend money on the previous books. I am a busy man you know and I do not have time to read every manga out there! That's like when I skip 3 or 4 volumes of Berserk at a time because I know that no matter where I jump in I can see blood and tits. I like blood and tits because I am a hetero man who likes hetero things. I would fuck Cascka but I would not fuck Elgarlrla because she has two penises.

Overall I would give this book 2 purple mustaches out of 5 because I did not want to have sex with any of the characters and not enough people died.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Randamo on March 17, 2011, 04:03:39 PM
I tried to make a comment but it doesn't seem to work for me. DAM FACEBOOK. But here's the comment I wrote. Maybe then I'd get a logical response from you guys, I have no hopes for him:

"Even if you're familiar with Excel Saga"?
If it were me, along with many of the other fans who love this series, I would recommend it ONLY to people who've read every issue! Otherwise, you have people making generalised statements about how it doesn't feel like anything's changed or whatever...
If you HAD been reading, you'd know that ever since vol 14, there's been a massive change in the series, I won't go into too much detail to avoid spoiling it for YOU, but I'm sure people up to volume 22 would know what I mean. But for the past couple of volumes, the series HAD returned to a bit of it's old dynamic, but with a feeling of confrontation and "stuff's gonna come down!" based on what happened in the past volumes.
I feel like maybe I'm not making much sense, but that's Excel Saga... for now. People following this have felt themselves get sucked in and desperate for explainations. But definitely in a good way! Every new volume signals nearer to the end and our understanding grows each time. It's sad to know that you've completely missed the point of Excel Saga, from what I can tell by your review. But it could be that E.S just isn't your style. Perhaps you want your series to be a bit more obvious, something you can just skip 12 volumes and never feel lost!
Sorry if I come across a bit rude, but your review has insulted a real E.S fan.

This guy sucks. I read his Hetalia review and he mistook Germany for Russia, that or he mistook Prussia for a girl, complete with bouncing breasts.
[spoiler](http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb374/randamonian/russiassister.png)
Ain't she beautiful?[/spoiler]
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Foggle on March 17, 2011, 05:36:50 PM
Yeah, the review is pretty insulting to Excel Saga fans, especially considering usually only one review is ever published for each book (if that!). People who don't find his reasoning asinine are likely to avoid buying the books because they'll assume it's like a black-and-white and non-animated version of the anime.

My review was way better, too.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Randamo on March 17, 2011, 07:21:05 PM
yes it was Foggle, I always enjoy your reviews. even though they sound so wrong.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: ElricJC on March 20, 2011, 09:27:45 AM
No worries folks, I will be posting my own review to mispeled.net as soon as I can get the manga in my little mitts, and I don't think there's any doubt mine will be considerably more comprehensive and understanding of the subject matter  

:e_confused: I tried reading that "review" and just couldn't get through it. Wow, you miss half the series, can't figure anything out, and then assume there has been no development. So beyond retarded.

EDIT: Ok, I got through it now. I almost posted my aggravation with the dumbass, but decided that offering even that attention was unwarranted, as the review was utter garbage to begin with. You cannot miss OVER HALF A SERIES and write a decent review of it, ever. This guy is a moron, plain and simple.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Foggle on March 20, 2011, 09:33:16 AM
Quote from: ElricJC on March 20, 2011, 09:27:45 AM
:e_confused: I tried reading that "review" and just couldn't get through it.
Which honestly speaks volumes about how terrible it is, considering it's about half a MS Word page long.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Lord Il on March 20, 2011, 07:55:25 PM
Here's something else I just noticed:
Regarding the credits for the photo used of vol.22 for that.... review..
QuoteExcel Saga
Photo: ©1997 Rokdo Koshi
:icon_rolleyes:
What is this I don't even... :e_confused:

Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Foggle on March 20, 2011, 08:20:55 PM
Quote from: Lord Il on March 20, 2011, 07:55:25 PM
Here's something else I just noticed:
Regarding the credits for the photo used of vol.22 for that.... review..
QuoteExcel Saga
Photo: ©1997 Rokdo Koshi
:icon_rolleyes:
What is this I don't even... :e_confused:
Holy freakin' LOL! I can't believe I never noticed that!
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Lord Il on March 21, 2011, 02:23:16 PM
Quote from: Foggle on March 20, 2011, 08:20:55 PM
Quote from: Lord Il on March 20, 2011, 07:55:25 PM
Here's something else I just noticed:
Regarding the credits for the photo used of vol.22 for that.... review..
QuoteExcel Saga
Photo: ©1997 Rokdo Koshi
:icon_rolleyes:
What is this I don't even... :e_confused:
Holy freakin' LOL! I can't believe I never noticed that!
Doing a little research on the 1997 date proved informative to me. What it means is the copyright date of first publication of the title itself. It just looked a bit misleading to me at first. That's probably correct. ^^;;

However, Rikdo's name is indeed misspelled no matter what romanization is used (Rikdo Koshi, Rikudou Koushi). :lordilvryannoyed:
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Foggle on March 21, 2011, 09:31:42 PM
I think the biggest question I have about that review is:
HOW'D HE GET A FOCKIN' COPY IN EARLY(ish) MARCH? I highly doubt Viz gives out pre-release review copies of Excel Saga, considering the only reviews I've ever seen for the manga aside from this one and IGN's take on #17 are of the first few volumes.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Randamo on March 21, 2011, 10:24:10 PM
that's a really good point. I thought of it myself but brushed it off because he's a reviewer.

I sorta doubt how legitimate the review is though. I mean, why did he get an early release when he's kind of a sucky reviewer.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: ElricJC on March 21, 2011, 11:16:16 PM
No kidding. Tiny ass review, badly written, with no knowledge of the subject matter. Real tater-twat.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Turbam!!! on March 22, 2011, 10:03:08 AM
I just read that review...

I should have just listened to everyone else and saved myself from spoilers
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Sonicbug on March 24, 2011, 09:03:32 PM
Quote from: Foggle on March 21, 2011, 09:31:42 PM
I think the biggest question I have about that review is:
HOW'D HE GET A FOCKIN' COPY IN EARLY(ish) MARCH? I highly doubt Viz gives out pre-release review copies of Excel Saga, considering the only reviews I've ever seen for the manga aside from this one and IGN's take on #17 are of the first few volumes.

I've got my review copy for Mania.com.  *nah nah nah nah nah nah*  It's so shiny.... *rubs cheek against book*  Smells soooo gooood.....

Yeah, I was surprised as hell that Viz sent out review copies for #22.  I don't know when Mania/AoD last received one, but it was way before I jumped on board the review staff.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Foggle on March 24, 2011, 09:43:23 PM
Quote from: Sonicbug on March 24, 2011, 09:03:32 PM
I've got my review copy for Mania.com.  *nah nah nah nah nah nah*  It's so shiny.... *rubs cheek against book*  Smells soooo gooood.....

Yeah, I was surprised as hell that Viz sent out review copies for #22.  I don't know when Mania/AoD last received one, but it was way before I jumped on board.
Whoa, review copies and everything! Viz is really expanding their horizons for this series!

Hope you enjoy it!
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Lord Il on March 25, 2011, 02:03:24 PM
Quote from: Foggle on March 24, 2011, 09:43:23 PM
Quote from: Sonicbug on March 24, 2011, 09:03:32 PM
I've got my review copy for Mania.com.  *nah nah nah nah nah nah*  It's so shiny.... *rubs cheek against book*  Smells soooo gooood.....

Yeah, I was surprised as hell that Viz sent out review copies for #22.  I don't know when Mania/AoD last received one, but it was way before I jumped on board.
Whoa, review copies and everything! Viz is really expanding their horizons for this series!

Hope you enjoy it!
hmm.. Where'd OUR review copy go? :eltongue: *tsk-tsk* :e_tongue:
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: ElricJC on March 25, 2011, 11:10:52 PM
Yeah, no kiddin. Hey Carl, did you see my article on Excel Saga on Mispeled.net, linked here before? Throw a dude a bone, man, come on  :im_nabeshin:. I'm way better than that ass-clown with his b.s. review.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Foggle on March 30, 2011, 05:32:15 PM
Got mine today! :elhail: I seriously recommend you guys start pre-ordering from RightStuf. No matter what it is I pre-order from them, I always end up getting it 1-3 weeks before the release date.

Won't have a chance to read it until Friday, but here are a few things I noticed:
It's one of the longer volumes. Maybe the second longest after #18.
The color pages are absent. Not that we expected them to be in there.
El's hair is blue on the back cover, as well.
The light blue color scheme might be the nicest looking we've seen yet on the English covers.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Uncreativity on March 30, 2011, 06:30:16 PM
I'm jealous! But I just ordered it today.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Foggle on April 02, 2011, 09:06:31 AM
Wow. Great volume! Top 5 material, easily. Fucking doozy of a cliffhanger ending made me rage, though, since (if Amazon.ca is correct) we won't know what happens until next year.
:hdead:

This is the first book since the single-digits where Excel is, without a doubt, the central character. There are some really quotable lines in this one, especially from Watanabe. It also features perhaps the best pacing the series has ever seen; something important and exciting happens in every chapter. The art is greatly improved from #21, as well.

It's hard to explain, but reading this one felt almost... intoxicating, maybe? I have no idea why, but this particular volume made me feel somewhat reflective after and while I read it. Sounds weird, I know.
I'll elaborate more once everyone has a chance to read it... :elhail:
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: E^D Crow on April 08, 2011, 03:45:55 PM
Just a few more days!  It's been so long since 21, I want it NOW!
Perhaps I'll take Foggle's suggestion, and pre-order 23 from RightStuf...

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E^D
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Taste on April 08, 2011, 04:21:25 PM
GODDAMMIT. I should've pre-ordered when I had the chance. And since my refund AND my grant check are not coming until the end of this month, I'm going to have to wait... :elcry:
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: R Kenshin on April 10, 2011, 12:53:31 PM
amazon.com preordered.  Expected time of arrival for volume 22 for me is the 13th. Looking forward to it. Seems April is unofficially Excel Saga Month. :elhail:
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Randomness on April 12, 2011, 08:41:03 PM
So, hey, I got my volume 22. There's this kind of huge sense that I'm getting of the plot leisurely barreling towards some kind of big climatic thing.

Hmm, I always have trouble figuring out the page numbers in these things but near the end of the volume, there's a full-page panel that's pretty much hilarious in or out of context.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: SWamP on April 13, 2011, 02:02:12 AM
Quote from: Randomness on April 12, 2011, 08:41:03 PM
So, hey, I got my volume 22.

You lucky one... my copy won't arrive until 23rd of April or later (stupid Amazon.uk (http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m73/El_Sargento/ex_blacklist.gif))

Quote[...]but near the end of the volume, there's a full-page panel that's pretty much hilarious in or out of context.

:shiouji: Very true, very true... *chuckle*

Anyway... Welcome to the forums, Randomness!!!  :ehail: :elhail: :g_hail:
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Randomness on April 13, 2011, 01:11:43 PM
I've been lurking here for a while. I just didn't have anything to say until now.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Lord Il on April 13, 2011, 01:50:57 PM
Quote from: SWamP on April 13, 2011, 02:02:12 AM
my copy won't arrive until 23rd of April or later (stupid Amazon.uk (http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m73/El_Sargento/ex_blacklist.gif))

I may end up in the same boat as you. You won't be the only one with a late copy.
The best things come to those who wait, however. :e_wink:



Quote from: Randomness on April 13, 2011, 01:11:43 PM
I've been lurking here for a while. I just didn't have anything to say until now.
Then I guess it's long overdue for you to get noisy! :ehail:
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Sean Gaffney on April 13, 2011, 02:43:57 PM
Got my copy today.  Rubbed it against my cheek (right upper) to make sure it was real.  It's fantastic.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Randomness on April 13, 2011, 02:46:36 PM
^^ In the finest and grandest tradition established by the second ranked of ACROSS I will indeed begin to get noisy and speak my mind in run on sentences because I really enjoyed the latest volume and hearing that 27 is going to end the series, I can't wait to see how things are going to be wrapped up but the one volume a year release schedule is kind of getting me down I'll still maintain poise and hold my head high and shout HAIL RIKDO as I await the arrival of more and more volumes until it stops and I hope that Viz keeps releasing and doesn't drop the series because that would be really disheartening to have stuck with the series all up into the twenties and drop it so close to the end I know its not a big blockbuster like Naruto or Bleach or One Piece or whatever and it really is a shame that more people don't read it which is why I got my friends and brother to read but all in all I have a large degree of excitement and suspense about how the story is going and I hope that a lot of the mysteries are cleared up but probably not all of them because one problem with a series with sort of mysterious stuff going on is over-explaining the mechanics and mystery, like midichlorians in Star Wars and nanomachines in Metal Gear Solid so we don't need a huge dissertation on Solaria but we do need to learn how it relates to the cast and the Excels and all that.

And then I ran out of breath. I don't know how Excel's various voice actresses managed. So, yeah.

^ Nothing like the feeling of smooth book cover in the morning. It feels like victory.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: E^D Crow on April 14, 2011, 04:01:39 PM
Just finished reading 22, and it it feels even more like 21 was a prelude to this volume, and to a new "phase" in the storyline, orsomethinglikethat. 

I'll be reading it again, tomorrow, and it looks like its time to open up a spot on my bookshelf.  Fairy Cube 2 - OUT, Excel Saga 22 - IN.  I can't wait until I have the whole series lined up on the shelf...
FIVE YEARS FROM NOW!
:elcry: :e_crying: :hdead:

Some additional comments:
[spoiler]My new favorite line:  Shiouji: "I have no morals, but I do have ethics."

That eye-poke Misaki gave Elgala looked really painful!

Rikudo's art is as sexy as ever, but not distractingly so.

I still miss seeing the ACROSS girls in uniform...  I guess Missions 2 & 3 of Volume 21 were just a tease.  *sigh*[/spoiler]

E^D
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Foggle on April 14, 2011, 05:02:42 PM
Quote from: E^D Crow on April 14, 2011, 04:01:39 PM
[spoiler]My new favorite line:  Shiouji: "I have no morals, but I do have ethics."[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Since I'm immature as hell, my favorite was definitely Watanabe's "how does it feel to be inside a little girl?"  :il_hahaha:[/spoiler]
Quote[spoiler]I still miss seeing the ACROSS girls in uniform...  I guess Missions 2 & 3 of Volume 21 were just a tease.  *sigh*[/spoiler]
[spoiler]You'll get to see that in excess, actually... but not until 2013. Or maybe '14. :sumysad:[/spoiler]
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Sonicbug on April 15, 2011, 08:51:55 PM
Oh yeah, my review pf vol. #22 went live on Mania a few days ago.

http://www.mania.com/excel-saga-vol-22_article_129509.html
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: scorby on April 18, 2011, 08:40:43 PM
[spoiler]"Her clothes are disheveled and optimistic."[/spoiler]

Great volume. :elhappy:
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Inkwolf on April 20, 2011, 09:00:49 PM
I'm reading it on my lunch breaks at work.  I should finish tomorrow.

[spoiler]Hey, in Elgala's cinematic fantasy, when the voice said "Sebastian, bring her back the the house" and the dark figure said, "Are you certain, Master?" am I the only one who thought "WTF, Black Butler crossover???" [/spoiler]
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: incarta on April 24, 2011, 05:08:19 AM
Finished! A good volume, but my god the wait for the next is going to be painful. As long as we get to the end someday, I'll be happy.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Randamo on May 01, 2011, 10:59:58 PM
Yay, my favourite book store in tha whole world had a whole stack of these!

I'll take one!

Reads....


Now, the next volume:


(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb374/randamonian/mistake.gif)


Can I admit something? I like the older volumes better.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Foggle on May 02, 2011, 07:27:20 AM
Quote from: Randamo on May 01, 2011, 10:59:58 PM
Can I admit something? I like the older volumes better.
Interesting opinion, and one that a lot of people I've talked to (who don't post here) seem to have. Why, might I ask?

Personally, I prefer the newer volumes due to the humor being a lot darker and because they tend to have more meaningful character interaction and progression than the first books. I also find the Excel/Elgala duo to be much funnier than the Excel/Hyatt duo and I'm happy that Kabapu and crew have been bumped up to main character status.

The only thing I actually like more about the older volumes is that Umi and Miwa aren't in them.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Kharaxel on May 02, 2011, 07:50:03 AM
Quote from: Foggle on May 02, 2011, 07:27:20 AM
The only thing I actually like more about the older volumes is that Umi and Miwa aren't in them.
You... you die now. Please.

Just kidding. : P

Why you not like Miwa and Umi? They're fun characters I think.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Foggle on May 02, 2011, 03:09:30 PM
Quote from: Kharaxel on May 02, 2011, 07:50:03 AM
Quote from: Foggle on May 02, 2011, 07:27:20 AM
The only thing I actually like more about the older volumes is that Umi and Miwa aren't in them.
You... you die now. Please.

Just kidding. : P

Why you not like Miwa and Umi? They're fun characters I think.
I was being a bit overly harsh because that's just part of my personality, I think. :hdead:

I don't have a problem with Umi, but she's not one of my favorites. I think her conversations with Shiouji are hilarious, though.

I don't like Miwa at all, unless it's one of the scenes where she's screwing with Kabapu's head. But those are definitely some of the series' best moments.

I don't hate any of the characters in Excel Saga. I'm just not too keen on some of the ones introduced in the double-digit volumes.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Randamo on May 03, 2011, 12:16:46 AM
I think Foggle, it's because it was sillier and didn't take itself seriously.

vol 13 is my most disliked volume because I had my weirdo Shiouji, confidently go into his office and be hacked. The whole scene gets serious and then... then!
Miwa sticks her chest in his face! Oh, mein... He lost everything that he was in that scene.

And I love Elgala/Excel too, but I miss Hyatt. I also liked Wantanabe/Hyatt, and I've gone 7 volumes without that!

Also, there are no long distance trips to weird locations with people like the manager there...

I'm all for wrapping up the plot, but must the dynamic be changed so? I don't want to give the impression I disliked 22, but I wasn't excited or all that into it. It makes me sad. Because I think I'm losing interest.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Foggle on May 03, 2011, 07:15:44 AM
Quote from: Randamo on May 03, 2011, 12:16:46 AM
I think Foggle, it's because it was sillier and didn't take itself seriously.

vol 13 is my most disliked volume because I had my weirdo Shiouji, confidently go into his office and be hacked. The whole scene gets serious and then... then!
Miwa sticks her chest in his face! Oh, mein... He lost everything that he was in that scene.
I definitely agree that 13 and - to an extent - 12 took themselves way too seriously. But what about the stuff after that? 14 was one of the silliest volumes in the entire series and 16 was a masterpiece of subtle, bleak comedy.

Totally feel you about 13, though. The chapters with Excel were HILARIOUS... but there were only two of them, and the scenes with Shiouji were fairly out of character.

QuoteI also liked Wantanabe/Hyatt, and I've gone 7 volumes without that!
I love Watanabe, and the whole almost-but-not-quite romance angle was certainly one of the highlights of volumes 11-15. [spoiler]And it looks like it might be returning in #23...[/spoiler]
QuoteI don't want to give the impression I disliked 22, but I wasn't excited or all that into it. It makes me sad. Because I think I'm losing interest.
Understandable. It's still funny as hell, and most of the characters are the same, but it's presented completely differently now. Personally, I like it more, but I can see why you wouldn't.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Randamo on May 04, 2011, 12:38:52 AM
I think volume 17-18 is where my love waned. I haven't read much lately. Maybe I'll do that now.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Lord Il on May 04, 2011, 05:27:47 PM
Quote from: Randamo on May 01, 2011, 10:59:58 PM
Yay, my favourite book store in tha whole world had a whole stack of these!

I'll take one!

Reads....


Now, the next volume:


(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb374/randamonian/mistake.gif)
I don't think any red-blooded Excel Saga fan could possibly argue with you on that.  :e_wink:


Okay, finally got around to picking up my copy last weekend (Your copy will be in the mail soon, Zozolton. lol!)

ugh.. I feel as though I'm so far behind in discussion with current events in vol. 22. I'm hoping to get reading soon. The first page I randomly opened to had Excel with handcuffs. And they weren't on her wrists. :e_confused: I'm now thinking I may have to brush up a bit by doing a vol. 21 re-read. It's been quite a while.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Foggle on May 04, 2011, 07:47:48 PM
Quote from: Lord Il on May 04, 2011, 05:27:47 PM
I don't think any red-blooded Excel Saga fan could possibly argue with you on that.  :e_wink:
Am I alone in finding the newest volumes to be the most interesting, and also the funniest, then? :e_crying:
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: SWamP on May 05, 2011, 02:58:43 AM
Quote from: Foggle on May 04, 2011, 07:47:48 PM
Quote from: Lord Il on May 04, 2011, 05:27:47 PM
I don't think any red-blooded Excel Saga fan could possibly argue with you on that.  :e_wink:
Am I alone in finding the newest volumes to be the most interesting, and also the funniest, then? :e_crying:

He's talking about the LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG waiting... :e_confused:
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Foggle on May 05, 2011, 04:02:23 AM
Quote from: SWamP on May 05, 2011, 02:58:43 AM
Quote from: Foggle on May 04, 2011, 07:47:48 PM
Quote from: Lord Il on May 04, 2011, 05:27:47 PM
I don't think any red-blooded Excel Saga fan could possibly argue with you on that.  :e_wink:
Am I alone in finding the newest volumes to be the most interesting, and also the funniest, then? :e_crying:

He's talking about the LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG waiting... :e_confused:
Looks like I should've used something better than superglue to fix up my brain when part of it fell off last week... :e_upset:
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Lord Il on May 05, 2011, 05:02:24 PM
Quote from: Foggle on May 05, 2011, 04:02:23 AM
Quote from: SWamP on May 05, 2011, 02:58:43 AM
Quote from: Foggle on May 04, 2011, 07:47:48 PM
Quote from: Lord Il on May 04, 2011, 05:27:47 PM
I don't think any red-blooded Excel Saga fan could possibly argue with you on that.  :e_wink:
Am I alone in finding the newest volumes to be the most interesting, and also the funniest, then? :e_crying:

He's talking about the LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG waiting... :e_confused:
Looks like I should've used something better than superglue to fix up my brain when part of it fell off last week... :e_upset:
I've never had much luck with super glues.
When my brain breaks, I rely on my trusty soldering iron and a good quality, lead free solder - Lead is apparently not good for you for some odd reason these days. :e_tongue:
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: E^D Crow on June 03, 2011, 04:05:00 PM
Quote from: Foggle on May 04, 2011, 07:47:48 PM
Quote from: Lord Il on May 04, 2011, 05:27:47 PM
I don't think any red-blooded Excel Saga fan could possibly argue with you on that.  :e_wink:
Am I alone in finding the newest volumes to be the most interesting, and also the funniest, then? :e_crying:
I really like the direction the newer volumes are going with.

The progression of the series works and makes sense, to me.  It may not be as all-out absurd anymore, but it's still very funny, and much smarter.

The only thing that I disliked was the whole "Teriha" character, but I feel that experience forced Excel to mellow out (a teeny bit), and she's better for it.  My problem was seeing the hard-as-nails Excel acting like some like of shrinking violet.

E^D

P.S.  I do miss Mr. Owner...  He was bad-ass.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Ragathol on June 29, 2011, 10:46:06 AM
I read it just now, yesterday... Sure took its sweet time coming to Sweden >:(
Good stuff, still one of the best comics currently produced. Pity the wait is so long...
But at least we have a lot of progression now, in all kinds of ways. I just hope Viz will let us see the end as well.

How well is the title doing, really? Feels like it's just us 50 people here on the forum that reads it...
A lot of people have seen the anime, but no one knows there is a comic at all.
Title: Re: English Excel Saga Volume 22
Post by: Foggle on June 29, 2011, 11:04:41 AM
Quote from: Ragathol on June 29, 2011, 10:46:06 AM
How well is the title doing, really? Feels like it's just us 50 people here on the forum that reads it...
I've seen a couple of people on /a/ talk about it before (usually in threads I start, though...), and after four years of hype, I finally got one of my friends to read it (he doesn't have an account here). But yeah, the international reader-base can't be larger than 150 people. I suppose that's enough for Viz to make a profit, since it's been going not-quite-strong since 2003.

So strange that they'd cancel something popular like Gintama but keep Excel Saga going. Not that I'm complaining, I just think it's weird. Though I have a feeling the fact that no scanlations exist for ES might have something to do with bringing them sales they wouldn't normally get...

Quote from: Ragathol on June 29, 2011, 10:46:06 AM
A lot of people have seen the anime, but no one knows there is a comic at all.
Neither does Viz, apparently; 22 doesn't even appear on their website! The newest one on their official series list and store is 21.